PS - I love how your quote says "God damn it" - that sounds like such a perfect reflection of a christlike illustration. All the ones that cuss are my favorite modern day Jesus correlations. It really reaches out to the kids, shows them just how hip Jesus was. Hell, Jesus wasn't just gangsta, he was an all out pimp.
just n from bethel
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Heck, Why Stop At One?
by AGuest incmdr.
locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.
not everybody believes what you believe!".
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Heck, Why Stop At One?
by AGuest incmdr.
locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.
not everybody believes what you believe!".
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just n from bethel
Nope, poor dear little blessed child AG - you are wrong -as usual. I had it perfectly right the first time.
There is no spoon, just like there is no Jeheshua.
And again, Anarchy to you!
A master of the Christ.
JIFB
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Heck, Why Stop At One?
by AGuest incmdr.
locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.
not everybody believes what you believe!".
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just n from bethel
Agent Smith (representing Christian personal revelationists): We're willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start. All that we're asking in return is your cooperation in bringing a known terrorist to justice.
Neo (representing those who see reality): Yeah. Well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. But I think I may have a better one. How about, I give you the finger... and you give me my phone call.
Here's another one:
Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.Anarchy
A master of Christ
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It Bears Repeating...
by AGuest in"you have to let it all go, neo: fear... doubt... and disbelief.
free... your mind.
" - morpheus.
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just n from bethel
Oh poor child dear AG (Anarchy to you!) - If you want to quote fiction movies of violence and link them to your fictional gods inside your mind, all based on a violent fictional Jewish book with it's God of violence - be my guest. Don't worry, you don't need crazy pills, you're doing just fine, dear honey child. I will just sit here and appease you and talk to you like a normal person that should in no way be in an asylum. Oh you sweet hallucinator you - connecting pop culture to your frame of mind always helps the chemical imbalances push away your reality.
Please - do yourself a favor. Go see a professional therapist that deals with hallucinations. You don't accept help here, so why not get some real help.
In the meantime, enjoy this image of Jesus based on your connection to pop culture and modern violent movies:
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It Bears Repeating...
by AGuest in"you have to let it all go, neo: fear... doubt... and disbelief.
free... your mind.
" - morpheus.
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just n from bethel
I'm just glad Jesus blessed the wachowski brothers to make a movie that would inspire those who hear God's voice to share lines from this science fiction ass-kicking violent movie to help us all love baby jesus. Praise the Lord - shoot the bad guys.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.
by davidl7 inaccording to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.
this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.
roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.
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Now something else I found might help prove an interesting point. Despite the high growth of hispanic population in the US - it is not the greatest (at least legally). When I recently went to a citizenship ceremony for a friend, I was expecting Mexico to be the biggest group. It was third. After China and India. And while JWs have had some ok growth in Chinese and Punjabi in the US - it's nothing to compare to the hispanic growth.
But - notice what the census department said a few years back "The fastest growing race groups will continue to be the Asian and Pacific Islander population with annual growth rates that may exceed 4 percent during the 1990's. By the turn of the century, the Asian and Pacific Islander population would expand to over 12 million, double its current size by 2010, triple by 2020, and increase to more than 5 times its current size, to 41 million by 2050."
The immigrants from Asia are often highly educated - yet they may add some, but really insignificant growth to the JWs. So again, there are some interesting dynamics going on in the numbers. I think it's good to add some perspective.
Here, I'll just say it like it is. JWs can only grow as long as the focus of their recruiting is strong with the uneducated. That's what they've done. A lot of shitty products have great sales by doing the same thing. Yep it's growth - but nothing to brag about.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.
by davidl7 inaccording to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.
this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.
roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.
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Oh I agree - growth is growth. I never said otherwise. Who knows how much they're helping other religions - not me. I don't care. I didn't look up all the dynamics of the survey. Like what about independent non-denom Christian churches? How is growth for those churches tabulated? If one of those doubles in size - does its growth rate surpass the JWs? - Or these independent mega churches - are they affiliated with a denomination? Some of those pop up out of nowhere and suddenly have thousands.
Anyway - my point was mainly with David who kept making insinuations that educated people are driving the growth of JWs. This is just not true. The evidence says otherwise. Not knockng the majority of the net plus 25,000 hispanic JWs - but let's get real: here's the snapshot of the growth: A hispanic family of 7 who landed in the US 10-15 years ago, with teenage children barely able to read that well, all baptized at the same time (yes I 've seen it happen at every assembly I went to in Spanish in the last decade). Along that line - guess why the spanish elders are not criticized that often about their kids going to college vs the English. Anyone? Anyone? David? You there?
But hey - at least these spanish kids get the best education in the world - right at the kingdom hall.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.
by davidl7 inaccording to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.
this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.
roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.
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just n from bethel
Factfinder - you are right on the money.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.
by davidl7 inaccording to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.
this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.
roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.
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just n from bethel
SBF: The thread is about the claim that JWs are the fastest growing faith which involves comparison. Citing immigration as an explanation for why JWs are growing faster would only make sense if JWs benefitted from immigration more than other religious groups, which may be true but has not been demonstrated.
And it's about the #s showing JW's growth in the US of what ... 25,000 new members (net positive)? A lot are making a big deal about it. Personally, as I already made clear,it doesn't bother me that JWs or any other religion has growth. But I happen to have personally observed enough Spanish vs English growth in recent years, that I do know where most of the numbers come from in the US.
I don't know where SBF lives, but I do know two things. If you're in an English hall in the US and you've really seen growth from the territory, you're an exception to the norm. The COs and Bethelites have confirmed for several years now that there has been mainly negative growth. If it weren't for young children getting baptized and a few unbelieving mates - the decline of JWs in English would be more notable. As it is, I can't even count anymore how many circuits assemblies I've been to where the baptisms have been in the single digits - mostly teens and youngsters. This is not just me - this is across the US in most English circuits.
The other thing I know is that Spanish has been doing amazing, not just in the US but in Mexico as well. I think (can't verify it 100%), JWs may be the 2nd biggest religion in Mexico after catholics. So now, English and Spanish and all foreign language groups combined gain a net plus+ of 25,000.
How much of that is Spanish? Observable entire new circuits in Spanish but not english - JWs offerring Spanish classes to get people to 'help where the need/growth is great'. Not to mention the social dynamics of hispanic families. Usually much larger than non-hispanic families. They also are more connected as families, meaning, when one member converts, it usually results in other family members converting.
So of the net+ 25000 that added a 4% growth rate to JWs in the US by this one study, I'd say the majority of the growth comes from Spanish 1st, other foreign languages 2nd, English last if any at all. Not hard to imagine that the 25,000 net plus, most of that comes from Spanish. It's not a huge number, and imho 4%, if its true, is not that big of a jump for the US. But as the COs and current bethelites have confirmed, it is not english that is growing. Period. End of story.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.
by davidl7 inaccording to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.
this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.
roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.
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just n from bethel
SBF said No other church benefits from immigration I suppose only Jehovah's Witnesses.
Who said they didn't? I thought we were talking about JWs here.
